Prompted by something highlighted by CharonQC.
Police were investigating today after an officer accidentally discharged a 50,000 volt Taser weapon into a man’s groin.
Peter Cox, 49, was seeking legal advice over the incident which started when he was stopped on suspicion of driving a BMW without insurance.
He spotted a patrol car following him and pulled over at his friend’s house in Bridgwater, Somerset, where he was doing landscaping work on July 13.
The officer pointed the Taser at him for a few seconds before lowering the weapon.
At this point, it discharged, narrowly missing the father-of-one’s genitals and hitting his groin and ankle.
Unemployed Mr Cox, who suffers from Guillain Barri syndrome, fell to the ground in agony and he was treated by paramedics on the front lawn.
He denied being aggressive and said the insurance company confirmed the car had valid insurance immediately after he was stopped.
An Avon and Somerset Police spokesman said the weapon was discharged by accident and that an investigation was under way.
Mr Cox’s disease by the way, is this:
Guillain–Barré syndrome (GBS) is an acute inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy (AIDP), an autoimmune disorder affecting the peripheral nervous system, usually triggered by an acute infectious process.
Some of the symptoms seem disturbing and very unfortunate.
Meanwhile, the other day, Ambush Predator pointed this out:
That doesn’t count accidental discharge of Tasers, apparently, since they’re not mentioned in the article.
And yet Tasers are, by law, classified as firearms. In days gone by, only firearms certified plod could carry or use a Taser. I’m not sure if that’s still the case, as I know Labour wanted to hand 10,000 of the things to non-firearms trained coppers last year.
So how does this affect you or me, in the world of law-abiding, middle-class professionals.
Well, stopped for a BMW apparently being uninsured? Hardly a Ford Escort, is it? Okay, I know there are now loads of snotty old Beemers around, but still, the one I sold last year was a 2001 model – hardly brand spanking new.
But of course, you and I always properly insure our cars, as much for reasons of exposure to unlimited civil liability as to remain within the laws of the land. So, if you read the article at the top, did Mr Cox.
the insurance company confirmed the car had valid insurance immediately after he was stopped.
So did my commenter in this thread. My emphasis.
AJ – I’m painfully aware of the new insurance database laws. I have had one car impounded because my insurance wasn’t on the database. I had to walk home and It cost me £117 to get it back the following day. The insurance company wouldn’t pay up because apparently it takes up to 5 days for your policy to appear on the database.
I was stopped later on in the year and had my documents with me. Again I wasn’t on the database. It appears that my reg no had been entered with a zero that should have been a “o”. They didn’t impound me that time because it was not the traffic cops that stopped me; they phone my insurance company and verified my insurance.
They did tell me that if it had been a traffic stop, my car would have been impounded, regardless of the fact that I had my documents because they could have been fake. They also said that the traffic cops wouldn’t even have made the phonecall, they would have just taken my car and left it up to me to prove I had insurance.
So there it is. Change insurers, or have an insurer that enters your registration plate into their computer in an unorthdox way, and you will get stopped.
You may be denied the opportunity to prove your car is insured, before it is impounded at your cost.
I travel all over the UK on business. What if something like this were to happen when I was in, say, Newcastle? 250 miles from home and 100lbs of luggage and kit either carried home or lost with the car.
I think I’d get pretty fucking irate. Possibly on account of my own health issues. And then PC Fucksmith would accidentally taser me in the bollocks.
There but for the grace of my imaginary best friend go I…
I give you the Muppets:
AJ
I guess he can at least count himself lucky not to have had a police alsatian hanging onto his groin…
And incidentally, since the police seem to be of the ‘accidents can happen’ attitude over this, perhaps they’d like to rethink their procedures (scroll down for picture) with far more lethal weaponry.
I can see no good operational reason why Mr Call of Duty II should be pointing his automatic weapon at two middle aged ladies stopped while out for a drive. Can you?
After all, if they are worried that they are secretly transporting Moat, wouldn’t it make more sense to cover the boot instead?
“They also said that the traffic cops wouldn’t even have made the phonecall, they would have just taken my car and left it up to me to prove I had insurance.”
I seem to recall something about no removal of property or fines without a trial in some constitution type thing… Obviously very inconvenient for bureaucrats.
Should one be surprised given the general IQ level of plod? New Scotland Yard delenda est.
Hi AJ
That was my comment you quoted above. Since those incidents I have discovered you can go on this government website to check if you car is on the insurance database. In fact, as long as you tick the box to say the car is yours, you can check any car you like. Just enter the reg number.
I too have been stopped in the past because the cops’ equipment flagged my car up as not having insurance. When they phoned up the insurance company (I didn’t have the details but I did know the name) they found I really was registered and let me go on my way. This was not shortly after changing insurers, nor was it due to a mis-key. It was due to it not being keyed in at all. I had not been on the database for months.
GIGO principle comes to mind.
It just *had* to be a Mr Cox get tasered in the groin, didn’t it?
Tune in tomorrow, as we fire a 50,000V yellow projectile at the Wilma of a Mrs Fanny, just for ekwalatee.
One of the first things you learn when joining the armed forces is that there is no such thing as an accidental discharge of a firearm. Either it is deliberate or it is negligent. The going rate for a negligent discharge (ND) when I served was a fine of 30 days wages, no excuses, no mitigating circumstances.
I’m not sure what the punishment for a second offence was, I never came across such an incident, but I suspect a bit of jail time and discharge.
I see no reason why this approach shouldn’t be applied to all people who carry fire arms, especially the police.
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